Today I had the pleasure of speaking to a friend (she will remain nameless) who was a producer for CBS and she is now a producer/journalist for a radio show out of NYC that reaches millions. Being a professional, she gave me some excellent advice in regards to this lackluster story and now it is time to disengage!
No disrespect to Donna; however, we are done with the drama of Donna and the story surrounding this calamity! In our opinion, Donna made two mistakes: 1) speaking to the uninspired radio show 2) not following through with the accusations.
It’s our opinion you should not talk bargain-basement rhetoric with clodhopping individuals who lack comprehension. BUT, you can’t unconditionally blame these individuals for they were only seeking a provocative story to boost their acclaim and acceptance within the paranormal community.
Advice
If you’re going to make heartrending accusations then you should contact a reputable news source and you better have your facts aligned! Contacting a misinformed and insignificant source is askew and for Donna …it was damaging.
I provided Donna with the number of this producer/reporter! Not for the story; however, so Donna can seek PROFESSIONAL advice from a professional reporter. We gave Donna a mulligan and we have NO more mulligans to give to anybody.
In closing, from this day forward the only person who will stop scifake from reporting a story will be a specific person who is addressed with “Your Honor”.
PS Where is the press release (Pilgrim Films and SyFy) that Hawes spoke about? I have yet to see a press release!
Yes, I was wondering about the press release item too. Anyone?
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I have been following this story for some time and wondered why is took scifake so long to respond to this mess in this manner. Kudos.
Also, don’t be afraid to announce that “shameless” radio show for many know it is the Ghost Divas. A pathetic group of middle aged woman who have a lot of time on their hands. They try to talk the fear of God into you only to seek a cheap thrill! Losers!
You’re right Donna should’ve sought advice from her lawyer or a professional and reputable news source.
You gave her a chance and she let you down! I hope she learned from this BS!
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I hope this is over- Can’t help but think this were beating a dead horse, here, I do not believe we will ever see any official press release over any of this, as in my opinion there was nothing all that damaging as far as the interview goes just a few leading statements where no specifics are named, that would make this entire mess worthy of any comment by syfy/ Pilgrim films….but thats just my opinion,
also I continue to send my well wishes out to Donna wouldn’t think this new article would really do much for her except make for more stress
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She is a good person …but you can’t go in with guns blazing and retreat your army! You won’t get respect. I can’t blame Divas 100% either; however, Donna should’ve taken a stand continued with the accusations. Simple. This isn’t all coming from me for I sought professional advice prior to writing this article. It was okay to pull the last articles; however, Donna made her bed respectfully and now she must talk about he EXACT accusations or just move on and think of this as a bad dream. There are news organizations that would be interested in her story if she can provide FACTS of fakery. Otherwise …we are done!
NO disrespect to Donna …but if this is causing her stress do NOT read the articles. Simple! Toss the laptop out the window.
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As usual the big boys and proven fakes got what they wanted with the legal threats, deletion of threads, removal of articles, damage control, etc.
Screw that! They are no more important than anyone else. You are just reporting Ron, stand up for yourself. If they don’t like it – too damn bad.
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Thanks and we have always appreciated the support! It’s always been our belief to remove ourselves from personal attacks and not to attack personally.
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You may be able to win back some loss of respect with me over this whole “Donna-capade.”
Donna L. has destroyed any and all credibility with her manic reporting of the facts and then pulling the old switcheroo on her stories once too many times. This last ploy of hers shows me….well I will leave out what I want to say except for the fact that if I want stable information concerning the paranormal field, I will not be asking her, reading anything she wrote or listening to any interviews she may give in the future.
Reporting any information that is from less credible sources is nothing more than one net tabloid copying another.
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Well I appreciate the support! I said from the beginning of this fiasco …Donna is to blame; however, she told me was becoming ill due the stress and as any caring human being (almost any) I felt bad and I thought it was appropriate to pull the article.
LOOK, AGAIN, Donna should’ve kept her mouth shut if she was going to pullout early. Sound something like a date once said to me. “Pull out early”. LOL
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@GingerSnap:
I support Ron on this too and, though I still hope ‘Donnagate’ will ultimately/somehow hurt Ghost Hunters, I appreciate Ron’s being judicious and diplomatic in this situation.
If people are dissatisfied with the reporting going on here, then they should feel free to start a site of their own. Not everyone can be a ‘moviedan’ (and maybe that’s a good thing).
As always, please remember to turn off your television every Wednesday at 9pm EST. VR
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Still waiting on the press release.
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@Nate:
I really don’t think there will be a press release unless it hits mainstream media since most internet outlets are basically viewed as outsiders to the mainstream media. They view talking about Obama’s toothbrush or underwear more of a story than things that mean more to every day people.
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@MarkCale:
Yeah, keep waiting because it’s apparent Mr. Clean is once again lying out his ass and trying to induce fear. Just like him and I’m glad Ron is starting to see the light at the end of this long freaking tunnel.
I don’t agree the article should’ve been pulled; however, I admire his leadership and his fearless efforts. After all …he is the one putting his name and reputation out there protecting his beliefs. Unlike many of the idiots over at Youtube who support the fat fuck Movie Dan.
Maybe this has never been addressed , but one must admire the dedicated people (like me) who participate here. Kudos to you people.
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@admin:
omg…lol
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I just found this site and I somewhat impressed. The look is clean and the site is easy to navigate.
I’ll need to read more about what’s going on Does anyone want to give me a quick summary?
~ LJ
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What??? Did I miss something>
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I listened to the radio broadcast and I must admit …lousy journalism at its best! I mean …the man Dan Bell (or Divas) is interjecting sound clips as she is speaking only to the 100 (or less) audience and his humor is disgraceful. Guaranteed, get Mr. Bell on stage to speak to her personally …the moron would fold because he is a chump. A wanna be star looking for his door to fame and he using Donna to gain false recognition. Pretty sad!
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Sorry Ron, been sick the last couple days. I have not spoken to Syfy due to this, but since Donna made a statement here I am not sure they would need to post anything.
As Donna mentioned in her response, there never has been and never will be a “staging” crew on Ghost Hunters, and nor is anything, at any moment of any investigation, staged in any way.
The “Divas” are the ones who stated those and then talked Donna into somewhat of a corner.
As for this post of yours here. I am game for anyone who claims we have faked anything and has any information on it to go to any and all news sources about it. We do not fake anything.
I have spoken with Donna and she is upset with the way this all went down. She did tell me as I believe she told you “TAPS did not fake anything” and also she stated she knows I would never do anything like that as she again told you Ron.
Donna called me, I did not call her. So no one can ever say we scared her into recanting. Bottom line is this, people are going to say whatever they want, people are going to believe or not believe the trash that comes from those ladies “Divas” mouths or not. They do not bother me. I find it funny that they spend so much time on someone they seem to hate so much. lmao
Let alone their threatening of people with bodily harm to post stuff for them, I believe you became a victim of that on this site.
I just received another email from a lady they went after as well.
She is turning what they said and did over to the local PD.
I have spoken to many people who have dealt with them and I can say most have the same thoughts about them.
As long as Donna is safe and well I am happy, and I appreciate all the attention those “Divas” have provided for the show.
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I agree with Para Man…lousy journalism. I have read about these “Ghost Divas” and it is laughable. They say they pride themselves on truth; however, tells lies!
Also, middle aged woman, now that was funny! Have you actually seen these ladies up close! YUK! Not enough makeup will do them justice. Just saying.
Maybe Hawes should flex some muscle and take a stand against the Divas. Or …is he afraid?
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I must say that Jason H. Gives a good story, What more can they say(SYFY) and the production company, They can say a great deal. First they can answer the question of staging the program, They also can answer the question as to the Who or Whom are the people that edit the intake for the story. Also the can answer the big question as the stunts, fakery, and the truth of all the People and or persons that are investigating, and the investigators themselves.
As a BIG TIME Skeptic, I have asked that TAPS prove to me by going on one of the so called investigations that what is happening is the truth. Each time I have asked I have been removed from their blogs. This tells me that something is going on that they don’t want me to see. I also Questioned since they stated many times that they are not actors why 1.) They have actors working for them, and 2.) why they are on IMDB.com. Every question I ask has never been answered. Then to answer Sarah Baker question “Maybe Hawes should flex some muscle and take a stand against the Divas. Or …is he afraid?” I feel the answer is YES. If Jason and Grant are afraid to answer my questions, you bet that they are afraid to talk to the DIVAS on live radio. Who am I I’m a concerned Father, and Grandfather, and want my children and grandchildren to watch and be told the truth so they don’t go to bed scared.
Again I asks TAPS (Grant and Jason) Prove to ME what your doing is not faked, that you are telling the truth, and most of all I want this done where there are NO outside influence, such as RADIOS, Ear pieces, And allow me to bring my digital camera, My Video Camera and My Digital recorder, while you leave the EVP and your devices at home. Take me to the most haunted place in america you say is haunted. Also That searches of all those involved be done as to strings, fishing line, paperclips, Pens, pencils. Mic’s . If this could be done and they then I would report to SCIFAKE the results of the investigation.
To tell you the truth I really don’t see this happening ever, as I feel that Ghost Hunters is on their way out of the show business….
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Jason
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your opinion with us , I too think there wouldn’t be any official word from the networks or production company-even if you went to them with this as IMO Donna’s story wasn’t on a “credible” media source, to begin with IT only got any attention because of that you-tube video, spin on it and later Ron’s article here on the video,
I would hope anyone damaged or threatened by the (unmentionables) would go to the authorities, with those threats..
Jason of course people are going to question the evidence on TV- some things
do look suspect, and thats always going to be there out as long as GH and other programs exist, having said that-
as a TAPS client, I do know that there are some things out there that can’t be explained-
that just might be evidence of the paranormal-
Critics and skeptics come with the territory of being in the lime light
and if you show me something moving on
TV damn straight I’ll look for a string
its human nature –
IMO there are far more important things out there then this Donna gate, like cleaning up the paranormal community, and the taps family from felons and sex offenders, and getting refunds for those that spent their hard earned $ on paranormal events that never came to pass–Hoping we move on
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Thanks for making the statement here Jason but do you really want us to challenge you on the hoax issue here?…
okay then…
Why was the window closed in the Meatloaf episode when Grant put a water bottle next to it to move as a “sign” but then it was open in the scene when they discovered it moved?…
I know; “ask Grant!” lol ….
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For the record: Dr Thomas G.Hamilton
conducted a series of experiments under the Auspices of the University of Manitoba-Canada back in 1920′s that produced some of the more humorous of the classic cheesecloth ecto photos that I suspect were fudged as the result of mounting pressure from the University to produce results or cut funds…I still respect him as a researcher/paranormal investigator, so I retract an earlier statement I made about not respecting you (Jason H.) as a Paranormal Investigator…to be fair, I do not know much about you beyond the hoax allegations as I don’t watch paranormal reality television (I like “A Haunting” because it is funny)but I’d still appreciate an explanation about the Meatloaf/water bottle debacle
…I am still huge Meatloaf fan…
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It’s is not challenge “Godofwar” to answer a quesstion.LMAO. and your answer is:
Because one shot is from the investigation, the other shot was from two days later while the company “Pilgrim Films” was doing b roll. B roll is when the “window was open” B roll is known as the extra footage shot that they insert into the show. like the high moving camera shots and the walk thru camera shots. They can not do b roll during our investigation because if they did they would be contaminating the investigation.
Like I have said time and time again, I have nothing to hide!
If asked a question in a respectful manner I then answer.
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JASON H. “As Donna mentioned in her response, there never has been and never will be a “staging” crew on Ghost Hunters, and nor is anything, at any moment of any investigation, staged in any way.”
It must be that Jason is sick or recovering from an illness not to recall the 2008 live Halloween program, where it shows staging of members/guest of TAPS.
STAGING:
1. A director should not put actors on marks per say.
2. About a fight: any possibility of getting hurt, you must choreograph it. Can’t be out of control but look out of control.
3. Actors “stage” the scene. The word “blocking” does not exist anymore.
4. Actors want to sit down, try not to sit down. Don’t do conventional stage things, just standing, just sitting. Not enough difficulty.
5. Be a well trained actor. Director won’t tell you. A good director will say: ‘let’s try it’. He won’t tell you marks until after actors do it.
6. Be in middle of activity.
7. Can’t follow each around quiet quiet talk. (Whenever you) Every can stand still, think, emotion, objective, move when you have to.
8. Do not move on other person’s lines.
9. Do the things that are the unspoken word.
10. Don’t confine people to sitting if possible.
11. Do the things that are the unspoken word.
12. Don’t do things twice, (if she knells before him once), second time isn’t dramatic.
13. Drama: one person move at a time, wait for one to stop.
14. Explore what the hell happens, don’t say sit here or there.
15. Eye of audience is effected by monotony, not one actor right and one actor left all the time.
16. Films. Hire the best actors and let them loose on the set. That is it. And most of the time there is very little to change if you choose the right actors and that they understood the scene. That was it. That is the best kind of staging.
17. Find my way on stage.
18. Find interesting things to do then stay with it.
19. Find stuff to do that furthers your character.
20. For the director, the best staging comes from good actors.
21. From the emotion comes the imagination and from the objective comes the staging.
22. Give yourself playing area.
23. Good moves comes from the actors. Director gives green and red light.
24. Go the short distances in staging. Don’t think funny.
25. How will the words look in 3 dimension? Moving around, etc.
26. Impulses will stage the scene.
27. In staging, be a well trained actor, a director won’t tell you. A good director will say, “let’s try it”. He won’t tell you marks until after actors do it.
28. It looks like too much staging.
29. It’s like a chef planning a meal. He doesn’t serve you the same thing. If you start with a asparagus, is the main course asparagus, does he give you asparagus fruit, does he end up with asparagus cake.
30. Language play – can’t move all over, just speak.
31. Make the enemy in one direction.
32. Moves come from the actor.
33. Moving when you feel like it, don’t do staging.
34. No staging, give yourself playing area, otherwise you get stuck.
35. Pattern of behavior – she gets hold of him – he gets away – then stage the scene.
36. Physical behavior moves staging.
37. Playwright: sees a result in his head, applies it into dialogue. We can’t know how he staged it.
38. Rise with a reason, that is what your emotion is for.
39. Stage only for meaning, the content of the scene.
40. Stage the moment, (“I want the cigarette.”)
41. Staging “Go the short way”.
42. Staging based on principles.
43. Staging: be a well trained actor. Director won’t tell you. A good director will say: ‘let’s try it’. He won’t tell you marks until after actors do it.
44. Staging comes from actor’s initiative.
45. Staging comes from actors: impulses. Can’t be physical static.
46. Staging comes from the actors: What is my position, am I the aggressor?
47. Staging from principles.
48. Staging is not just an interesting place for people telling the story, look at behavior.
49. Staging it to make pictures to tell the story. Give yourself playing area. What can be done at the moment, the objective, what are people doing to each other. Act overcoming objective, what do you want?
50. The inners: staging comes from actors.
51. Walk, show back.
52. What’s wrong with it is: staging a scene has a plan, understand a plan.
53. When a thing is a division you must show division, when they’re together, it doesn’t work.
54. Whenever you can stand still, think, emotion, objective, move when you have to.
55. Whole element behavior, lift it off pages. (He is) aggressor.
56. You must decide on a house: so staging doesn’t become static, having no playing area.
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And the only time you were told “Godofwar” to ask Grant was n reference to his experience. That was the only time you were ever told that.
So acting as if that is my way of getting out of answering is just poor on your behalf. I did not have the experience so how am I supposed to comment?
I could not see it, I could not feel it, etc etc.
So my comment was correct in telling you to ask Grant.
If Ron had an experience later today and I was in the same location but a ways away from him and unable to see him, should I really be the one commenting on what happened?
It makes no sense!
Jason
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BLOCKING:
1. having a shot list will help you during the blocking process. The shot list is like a map: it gives you a path to your destination but you don’t always have to follow it
2. let the actors show you what they want to do first, then, when you make a suggestion, it is based on something you have already seen
3. in Television, speed is essential, so try and block some scenes so that your action takes place in one direction (to avoid turning the camera around for reverses)
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I’m NOT kissing ass …but you must give him credit for being here and I give credit if credit is due!!! He’s not over at Youtube, myspace, SyFy, he’s here answering your questions and I hope people continue to be on their best manners.
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Damn, I must insert a comment limit. LMAO! You’re serious.
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ADMIN:
Sorry I really like to show all the facts! lol
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all 56 of them LOL
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lol yep!
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Grant faking that collar pull was without a doubt the most obvious fraud I have ever seen on any ghost hunting show. Your continuing “go ask Grant” answer is a dodge to avoid answering honestly. If you believe the audience is dumb enough to buy that a ghost pulled Grants collar 3 times while his right hand was mysteriously stuck to his right side you are delusional. You have been taking your audience for granted for at least the last 3 years while you guys sell yourselves to anyone willing to pay to hear your bs. The episode where your Inn was considered “haunted” said it all about you two and the lengths you will go to take advantage of any audience have left.
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@Jason H:
No, it makes no sense whatsoever lol..
If you don’t know what’s going 20 feet from you on your own show then I suppose tapping into the spirit world is a bit of a stretch (imho)…
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I love Ghost Hunters!
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If you notice …Jason is here and NOT Grant! Why is this? I’ll gvie my opinion. NO disrespect to Grant; however, Jason has bigger balls and wants to clear the air. We may not agree with is and that’s okay. If you watch the video, Jason is no where near Grant …BUT (IMO) three separate pulls? Please Grant.
Also, it’s factual Grant and Jason are NOT the only alleged crew faking some of the evidence. I truly believe Pilgrim Films and SyFy are behind the fakery too. BUT, in Jason’s defense (do blast me for this), Jason and Grant do NOT edit the footage. Unlike Ghost Adventures.
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@Jason H:
Oh so then this was edited to make it seem like it was one congruent sequence of events?…
And I would have to assume that the fact that the bottle turned up moved two days later and the window was now open does not exactly imply a sterile investigation scene now does it?…
good god are you kidding me? LMOA…
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@misty:
I love buffy the vampire slayer!
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@GodOfWar:
Even when given the answer you are not willing to except it? Really? LMAO.
OK, I have tried. not once, not twice, but numerous times.
I cant keep answering your questions when you are not willing to except any answers except for the one you believe.
I feel like I am talking to a wall with you and I really do not have time for that.
Best of luck GOW!
Feel free to email the Ex prod of the show and ask him. His name is Rob. You can find his info on IMDB i would think.
I cant just give out his email addy due to privacy, so you will have to research it a bit more and find it.
I have nothing more to say to you on this matter GOW.
Jason
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@Jason H:
You have yet to give me a definitive answer on any of the points I have so eloquently and politely made … no you have just skirted the issues with exaggerated over-reactionary replies, feigning indignation and faux victimization over my little comments offered in jest initially… now that am proffering strictly concise points again offered politely, I am met with convoluted and ambiguous seeming replies that I feel are intended as a diversionary, evasive tactic… but at least now you have shifted from “ask Grant” to “ask our ex Production Manager” LOL…
I’m sure you don’t have anything more to ME say on this matter Mr Hawes …
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I’m going to tell you that you will never get a straight answer from Grant or Jason, Jason and Grant still think they are certified plumber, Though after Checking with State and local government licensing boards there are no issued certification for either Jason or Grant as certified plumbers. Also after a great deal of research I have found that Grant was not a founder of TAPS as stated by the both of them. Yes Jason was but Grant was not.
I’m sure that Jason you have seen the many taps out, there on youtube and other sites that slow down the collar pull. If you need a copy I have one that you can view it’s Slowed down.
I have so much more about the tricks Grant pulls, and the funny thing this is I can prove everything I say. This is why they will not allow me to go on one of their hunts, as a Military investigator/Counsel for the C.I.D. more then 20 years I have see it all…
A Question that you may want to ask yourself, If these EVP devices worked as they say they do, why is it that the Government refuses to use them? I know why!
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I eagerly await the promised press release also. I do know that Pilgrim Films suddenly appeared on twitter promoting the GH triad.
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I seem to be the only one who places more blame at the feet of the ghost divas than Donna. The entire interview seemed to consist of the ghost divas leading Donna along, and Donna constantly following along and then backing off when she realized what she said. Donna’s should have known better than to take the interview without getting legal advice, but the ghost divas had an obligation to not take advantage of her.
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I’ve been a fan of Ghost Hunters since the beginning. I’ve trusted their integrity as the men of science they advertised themselves to be. The last year or so has had me calling their integrity into question.
Grant’s collar fake was the first time I began doubting them. That is an obvious fake, very sloppy. They should come clean about it, but they will not. Too much money at stake of course.
And if they’ve obviously faked one piece of evidence, it all has to be thrown out now. The princess EVP, the ESP figure, all of it. I’m kind of sad to see this happen, I thought these guys were the real deal.
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After listening to Donna, it seemed to me she acted more like a love jilted woman that anything else..Might be a lot more to this than what is being said…
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@lew7rch: Hmm “EVP devices” you must mean digital recorders able to be purchased anyplace by anyone–and yes one of their many functions is to record EVP during paranormal investigations-and they do work in this respect take it from me just a litle ole’ peon paranormal researcher with no TV show…
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Jason I have a question… I just found this site and its cool you are on here answering questions… I happen to have a question! What is your experience with animals and spirits.. My mother claims her house is haunted and has seen a spirit of a young boy… I have heard many things that are unexplainable but when this happens my dogs go nuts! One of them runs around looking at the ceiling from room to room like she is chasing something… Also sometimes when she is downstairs and I call for her she will come up a few steps and all the sudden she stops like she is trying to get around somebody but can’t.. And I always have chills and feel cold when it happens… Do yo think animals can interact with and see spirits? Too much coincidence for me!
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@lew7rch: Lew7rch,
you being a skeptic would actually fit into a lot of ghost hunting groups. Why don’t you try and find one in your area just to try it out. You can try and debunk everything you see and when you can’t…..there’s your proof. Jason and Grant, or anyone else on the TAPS team are not actors. Just because they show up on IMDB…. that makes them actors ? Come on ! Query any news anchor or media personality on IMDB and I bet you’ll find them. It’s great that your a skeptic, but to belittle someone else before you have all the info. Thats just childish.
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GHOSTIE32:”You can try and debunk everything you see and when you can’t…..there’s your proof.”
Science has already debunked (or is the process of debunking when it comes to human neurological causes) everything that is considered “paranormal” so following believers around would be superfluous and rather pointless. However, I think it would be a great idea to dedicate a TV show to the rational scientific explanations for “paranormal” events that have been shown on television recently.
Unfortunately, science doesn’t sell like ghosts and demons – media and advertisers go where the money is and currently the money is with the sensationalistic melodrama of “ghost hunting”, not scientific rationalism.
GHOSTIE: “Jason and Grant, or anyone else on the TAPS team are not actors. Just because they show up on IMDB…. that makes them actors ?”
No, they’re not actors just because they’re on IMDB, they’re actors because they’re on a TV show acting — being directed, participating in pre-planning and pre-production, being directed and edited by a film crew, etc etc.
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@Cicely:
LMAO, ask a “scientist” what caused “The Big Bang”…
that is if you are interested in a “superfluous” answer …
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I have spoken to people at 2 different locations where the TAPS team investigated in St Augustine, Florida. There is no staging crew whatsoever. Whoever is spreading that lie around should be ashamed of themselves. Period.
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wow.. don’t you people have anything better todo than hassel the gh crew.. most of you are skeptics and even if a ghost did show up and science could measure and record it you still wouldn’t change your beliefs. So arguing about if a show was faked or not is pointless. ALSO what is it going to prove if you are right? Ghost give people hope in an after life. That’s why so many people want there to be ghosts. Stop all the hating towards gh and move on with life. just because you don’t believe dosen’t mean you can bring down the rest of us.
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i totally agree with lovelyranders.
i think so too, whatever would happen to skeptics , nothing would work to make these people a little more open minded. i am doing evps since about 15 years over here in germany and i can tell you something: YES LIVES GOES ON AFTER DEATH!
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@lovelyranders:
No, we are only skeptics when obvious and laughable hoaxes are attempted to be passed as legitimate evidence…only the painfully gullible and blindly devout like yourself fall for it
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@regine:
said:
“YES LIVES GOES ON AFTER DEATH! ”
-end quote-
I agree and the fishing line collar tug on G.H. is what served as the catalyst for this epiphany in my case …
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@Jason H:
Don’t worry about it,Jason,the only ghosts these”Divas” understand are the boobs on their chests that they would like everyone to believe are real. They think just because they can make boobs appear where there never were any before,and fool anyone stupid enough to believe they are real….well…you get the picture
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