Donna LaCroix articles removed! Why?
We will make this short and to the point.
This is our second recent article explaining gently (with no names etc) why we have decided to remove the articles pertaining to Donna LaCroix.
Donna asked us via email to please remove the articles because it was the advice from her attorney. In addition, the stress from the alleged overestimated radio show is overwhelming and causing Donna some health issues. Below is an excerpt from her email.
… asked that those who have my writing on their websites taken down as to calm down the drama for me. It has created immense stress for me and as a friend, I’m hoping you will do this.
So, I ask that you take down the articles of the interview incident, my responses, and anything to do with this situation. This is chaotic and turning into a zoo for me.
Traffic Fable
One or two feeble-minded people (remain nameless) have accused scifake of hitching our wagon to this interview only to increase our traffic stats? I find this statement laughable and ambiguous. If scifake was interested in traffic control, we’d leave ALL articles up and move on; however, scifake has over 140,000 page views per week and approximately 15,000 unique weekly visitors. In my opinion, the statement is contrapositive and a fairy story!
Blind Eye
Any reasonable person would consider the request and being a reasonable person I have decided to act in a manner that I think is positive.
We have said this from the beginning, Donna probably should’ve consider the request for the interview and done some more research in regards to the motive behind the people interviewing her; however, what is done and now we are doing what we think is right!
Scifake has no ill wishes against those who interviewed Donna and frankly, next time Donna needs to do her homework for she opened up a Pandora’s box and you can’t expect the box to shut immediately .
We wish Donna well and scifake will keep all informed with developing information.
By deleting these post did it affect the accounts of everyone who had a post there? The reason I ask is I had to register again with a new password.
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@steelguy:
Not at all! People just need to register now to make comments.
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Thanks, Ron. You’re a scholar and a gentleman. I’m sure Donna appreciates this and, in a world where forum posts evaporate on a daily basis without warning or explanation (cf. syfy.com and t-a-p-s.com), I for one appreciate your providing this update. VR
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I wish her all the luck and hope things get better
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Thanks for the update Ron. No matter what the allegations people that come here no the truth and need no explanation but it is still nice to hear one.
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I’d like to add my $.02. I believe this shows Ron’s continued attempts to, in all good faith, do what’s right. As the purpose of the site is, in my opinion, to highlight where people are duping, taking advantage of, or just tricking the public, SciFake has done a good job of being forthright and sincere. “Straight shooter,” as they say.
I’d like to also say that yes, he posted the original article in an effort to get hits. But he also took the articles down in an effort to get hits. Neither of these were done in some unscrupulous way: SciFake is bringing information to people. By doing what’s right Ron’s establishing that SciFake is a source for good and honest discussion.
While dishonesty has brought greater viewership at times for others (ahem), SciFake’s strength is its honesty, and that is the key to its future and continued success.
- Mike
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@mcash:
Thanks …both Mikes. We are doing what we feel is right all of deserve a mulligan and this is Donna’s mulligan.
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Ron,
this was no way a jab towards you.
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Oh come on Ron We all know your a good guy and will do what is right no matter what others think. Well I think your a good guy. NOW on the other hand ha! We still want to be able to inform and be informed. Have a great day and a wonderful tomorrow.
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@lew7rch:
I am a good person and I truly think evil does exist and we certainly have seen some evil in the past few days.
It’s funny …some of us are fighting over ghost. WTF has this world come too when mostly educated people fight over ghost. Groups invent evidence, people watch TV and then we have a pissing match!
People who know me will tell you I do not rattle easily. I have a good lawyer and a HUGE media connection. If you (not you lew7rch) thinks for one moment you can dter me from expressing my views …I say bring it on because I am fed up with this bullshit.
I gave Donna a much needed mulligan now it’s time to move on and be happy.
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The fact that you deleted all of that shows that your primary concern is not about ratings and hit points Ron…
and since the insipid. hollow threats of lawsuits did not seem to phase you in the slightest( as it shouldn’t), it would appear that this is simply what you deem as the “right thing to do”…nobody can take that away from you …
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@GodOfWar:
Sometimes as journalist …I think with Freedom of speech there is responsibility and integrity. Yes, Donna did open a Pandora’s box; however, I felt due to her illness etc it was my duty to inflict less stress. Now, some will say Donna created her won stress etc and I don’t disagree; however, why add to her pain?
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Ron
Were you ever asked by either syfy their attorneys or anyone from the gh show to remove these post?
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No I was NEVER asked by SyFy or pilgrim Films. Donna can reinforce my statement. However, we did this only because we felt the her interview lacked integrity and after seeing the negative consequence for Donna we felt it was imperative to remove the story. Some have commended me for removing the story; however, a commendation is not what I am seeking. If Pilgrim Films or SyFy sent me a letter asking for the removal of the articles I’d tell them NO! Why? Because both are non-human entities and lack emotional feelings.
Below are some emails from various people.
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@admin:
I only hope that in this entire quagmire, that Donna finds her peace and again follows the path she once had. I believe that anyone can understand that due to legal reasons the material was removed since she was involved with the entertainment industry which you have to tread carefully, I understand the frustration she is feeling, but I hope she moves on and has much success in her endeavors! Thanks for clarifying on the issue.
I feel that Paranormal investigations and groups should never cross over to mainstream TV since there is a lot up play made to gain ratings. To me Paranormal was never about exposure of this sort, but I have always hoped that exposure in the scientific mainstream it would have a presence and not the way it is being handled now.
I hope in future endeavors that SciFake and Ghost Divas can come to join efforts than to further divide.
I appreciate this forum as it is refreshing to have more objective audiences reviewing this!
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A real newspaper/news source reports the story and doesnt hide it because someone gets upset and loses sleep over it.
Obviously this isnt a real news source website.
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We never claimed to be; however, it’s obvious we care about your opinion (dimwitted at most) because it has been approved.
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Wow Ron it seems you can’t win by helping to spread the truth or being a human being caring about others.
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It takes all kins to make the world go around Mike; however, I respect the comment and this person’s need to vent.
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Oh I know Ron wasn’t implying that only the ones we agree with are the opinions that should be aired or that matter.
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What would happen if that guy from Extreme Paranormal had called you up regarding his blood donation actions and told you he was not well and was losing sleep over it? If he realized he made a mistake because the producers tricked him into doing it on air and due to all the negative publicity about it was suffering immensely. Would you remove that story also>?
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This entire episode is just sad, and I feel it justifies all of the negative feelings towards Jason,Grant, Pilgrim and scyfy.
I wish Donna the best!!
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I agree with you Steelguy completely. Its sad about Donna, but the news needs to be told imo. Taps = super guilty imo.
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I know where you’re going and to offer up some of your own blood to satisfy a ghost? Com’on! Trust me, I would NEVER remove that article; however, I see your point ..vaguely. The truth does need to be told! But at who’s expenses? NOT Donnas.
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I mean she is obviously a great person that you personally dont want any harm or negative things to happen to. I can understand this, but others could say that it is not objective journalism and that you are too close to your story.
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Now you’re making sense. Yes, too close because I think Donna is a stand-up person who did not take the time to evaluate the proposal of the interview prior. Some of us (remain nameless) have one goal …create havoc to spin it to their advantage and self absorption. Everyone’s 15 minutes ends!
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@The Truth:
If he was afflicted with a debilitating ailment like Crohn’s Disease; I suspect the same consideration would be extended to him …simple idiocy is generally not observed as an extenuating circumstance(imho)celebrity or otherwise …
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News articles are popping up allover the internet now:
http://www.masslive.com/television/index.ssf/2009/11/donna_lacroix_debunks_the_ghos.html
wont be long and it will hit some major papers I think…
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also a follow-up article here that rightfully slams Scifake:
http://www.masslive.com/television/index.ssf/2009/11/donna_lacroix_vs_the_ghost_hun.html
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I told Donna today just moments ago via phone, I would HOPE someone would extend the same courtesy to me! I have said many things that I regret and it’s unfortunate some things said are misinterpreted by simpletons. Sometimes we regret NOT saying enough and not taking action when needed. There are many arm chair warriors and I will tell you …I am NOT an arm chair warrior and I do not sit idly by as the old lady is robbed of her purse. I take action for that is what is expected of any decent human being.
Donna expressed her concern and being a compassionate person I took action. SIMPLE!
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Yeah, I saw the article and the author actually replied to me today. I respect her for her article for it’s her opinion. Kudos. BUT, look at how many comments it has generated? When I deleted the article from scifake we had over 120 comments compared to their 4 and my comment was repeated twice. LMAO!
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Its not too late to repost a revised version of the story..unless promises have been made that is. Its only been off the site one day really.
Since its all deleted perhaps have an outside writer do the story. Just the news facts.
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@The Truth:
Oh no, not a respectable periodical E-tabloid publication like the television section of “Masslive.com” …
Curious; you seem rather accustomed to talking to yourself and subsequently being ignored…do you suspect this is the result of your verbal mediocrity even though you are trying to be as abrasive and acerbic as possible in your poorly articulated, sophomoric diatribe that vacillates within the confines of your limited intellectual arsenal, or is simply because you are wrong?….
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@admin:
or Chip’s?
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@God of Words:
There is such a thing as being too wordy you know. If you are trying to show how intelligent and superior you are by pulling out a thesaurus its working. You are totally superior and so intelligent! Wow!
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GodofWar is his/her name! Where did you get God of Words? Careful, this person is very smart and we are happy to have him/her here.
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Dont forget superior! I definitely called him/her superior
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I really wish you would at least pick one name per thread. It confuses the hell out of me when you post as admin., Ron Tebo, and hahamagic all at the same time especially when you use I and we interchangeably.
If I am totally off the mark and those names belong to three different people, then I will apologize.
A couple of months ago you were looking for posters. You said that people would be able to post without anyone, including you, knowing who we were. You said that there would be no way for anyone to ever access the personal information. So….. Why have you gone back on that promise?
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@The Truth: It’s beginning to look like you are coming here trying to start something. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong but to me it definitely appears that way.
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Wouldn’t have been best not to have said anything at all? I mean, it is obvious when you have some celebrity status and have been involved in the entertainment business, it would simply put not to open your mouth about things?
Obviously, the whole point is overlooked that even speaking out like this, you have face that is it done and move on.
The operative thing here is, if you want to bring drama then you will get drama! She brought it and got it. You can sugar coat this all you want but unfortunately, being in relation to the entertainment business then it is a given you don’t go shooting off about things unless you intent to stick to them.
The compassion, I share as well that Donna recovers and goes on with her life, but for as long this keeps going; you can very well say this is not going to die down and go away. Since, other sites and bloggers have caught wind of it now.
One more thing! In retrospect to God of War’s response. The use of words to embellish one’s inferiority in regards to one’s intellect. I believe you have defeated your own means as no matter how many words from Merriam-Webster you have accumulated only verifies the lack of and negates the facade of proposed intellect.
Therefore, the attack does not convince me that you are among an intellectual level. A true intellectual can respond with factual and concise information without following what appears to be mud slinging between responses. Does this Forum, purposely divide and attack? Is there not tangible debate with out going to a level of school playground? Do you deliberately, avoid any intelligent responses and single out attacks to further drama?
I sincerely hope that there is more to this than just rhetoric and constant bickering this would be very disappointing!
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I feel for her, and those people at GhostDivas were mocking her while interviewing her, laughing, it was so unprofessional and I will definitely have nothing to do with that site or their radio shows
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Silencing the truth is never a good thing. However I can see Ron’s point when it comes to granting Donna’s wishes on this issue.
Pilgrim, SyFy, Grant, Jason, etc are putting together a television show to make the most money they possibly can. PERIOD! Anything that throws a wrench into their profit machine will be dealt with at all costs.
Legal threats to silence the truth for even MORE MONEY by self-important people along with their stuffed-shirt, geek lawyers looking to fill their pockets by trying to scare someone makes me sick. Put enough threats on someone and you may open up that can of worms even further. I’m not saying this is what happened here as only a handful of people know for certain.
Let’s be fair, further damage has been done to TAPS credibility and there is no amount of damage control or legal action that will fix it. In my opinion, they lost all credibility a long time ago so this newer revelation recently revealed by Donna is no big deal.
Ghost Hunters had a good run. Things don’t last forever, and things like this happen every day in the business world. After all, ‘Ghost Hunters’ is about business/making money/marketing/legal contracts/TV contracts/selling advertising time – not trying to prove or disprove the paranormal. That’s just the illusion/tool they use to make the money.
It’s really comical that someone can really be gullible enough to take seriously and believe what is presented on any of these “paranormal” shows. Did people really need Donna to confirm that people should watch “Ghost Hunters” for entertainment value only?
No one ever likes the truth and it is very obvious this upset the proverbial apple cart.
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Not at all actually. Godofwar came at me with some condescending comments. Rather than come back with some rude comments I came back with compliments.
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I’ll be honest. I think this whole thing was handled very poorly by the Ghost Divas, Donna, and SciFake. The drama that ensued was way overblown for the issue it was, and I think all parties are guilty of this. I will come right out and say that I don’t think that removing the articles was the correct move. However, I think there were more than a few missteps before that, and if there’s one good thing that came of this, it’s that those comment sections are gone.
Donna’s original interview is still online. I don’t think it was/is wrong to report on that. Maybe it speaks to the popularity of the site, that it matters whether or not your articles stay up. Sitting from afar, it is bold to say I would not have taken the articles down. I am involved with a website, and if I get an email asking that an article be taken down, it would be a tough decision. I understand the importance of keeping a good relationship with those that you are writing about. I understand Donna’s desire to push this whole thing under the rug. However, taking the articles down would not be my answer. If clarification is needed, then make the clarification, redact any false information, and conclude on a hopeful note. Newspapers issue corrections, not recalls. I know this isn’t a newspaper, but this is how I think news should be handled in general.
However, you were honest with this article Ron, and I do respect that, since that’s what I expect of myself. So I mean no disrespect to you with this comment. This is just my opinion, and I commend you for sticking with yours.
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@ChrisM
You wrote : I’ll be honest. I think this whole thing was handled very poorly by the Ghost Divas, Donna, and SciFake.
and you wrote
onna’s original interview is still online. I don’t think it was/is wrong to report on that. Maybe it speaks to the popularity of the site, that it matters whether or not your articles stay up.
The Ghost Divas just had her on the show. They didn’t do anything additional to feed the fire. Donna does not regret doing the show, she regrets her truth being manipulated by websites like scifake.com
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It is okay to report on the story and I don’t have a problem with professional journalism. As many are writing to me (comments and personal email) the interview was not professional and various internet laws may have been broken. I’m not a lawyer so let the lawyers handle the law.
You last sentence reads:
Notice the plural word websites? Can you please provide a list of websites that have manipulated the truth and tell my thousand of readers how we manipulated the truth? By the way …we doubt your email is correct; however, I’m sure your IP is current. Thanks.
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EXACTLY! Many (and I am not exaggerating) of persons support her. We do all agree Donna should’ve been better prepared; after all this is NOT a professional radio show and the audience size is dismal. BUT, the Divas believed they were doing a service by reporting what they thought was the truth.
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I haven’t and I’m not sure what you mean? You have my email and I would suggest writing to me there.
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[...] is Sciface.com’s explanation for removing the articles. Whatever happened to responsible journalism? Share and [...]
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This is why the “truth” remains in the shadows. It all boils down to lawyers, internet “laws”, he said she said…it’s all a bunch of crap. For once someone had the guts to stand up to the big boys, and no one is there to pick up the fight.
This entire fiasco is a huge black eye on the face of the paranormal research community.
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I sincerely hope the Ghost Hunters go down hard for this. It’s high time they get taken off the air.
Also, if I may, I would encourage those who enjoy the show for entertainment’s sake to consider watching it on youtube instead of on tv. I know of at least one person on youtube who has all their episodes and loads up new ones fast.
Watch it on youtube and get your entertainment without giving them the ratings. VR
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I sit here baffled about the entire backlash that Ron and sci fake is receiving for doing the right thing
IMO the original article was no more than an editorial on a video created from pieces of the GD interview that asked some tough questions
If there was some great journalist research involved here in getting this story I certainly missed it-
to call it more than it was is IMHO just shows a number of peoples wish that this interview was some huge smoking gun, and it cracks me up at the number of blogs popping up that Sci fake has somehow let down the entire paranormal community by removing an opinion or editorial-
IMHO Any black eyes to the paranormal community are not a result of sci fake but those web sites , blogs and video that continue to ignore Donna’s request to remove the articles and videos on the subject that is my 25 cents worth on the suject
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@paraskep:
Don’t feel bad because really, we only have received about 5 bad comments out of hundreds (some now deleted) comments. Also, keep in mind because we record ALL IP addresses we know some of the same people DO comment using different names. Laughable.
In addition, the unmentionables have a SMALL following and they called out the 5 salivating friends to comment. We actually had one who apologized not knowing the full story. In doing so …this shows this person is smart and has heart.
Moreover, I have received a few emails thanking us for the story and one lady who’d like to send Donna a Hallmark Card. Nice.
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@RonTebo:
Ron,
Recording an IP address is not a fail safe. You do know how easy it is to change or spoof your IP address?
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@Zandig:
Of course; however, we have other measures in place that I cannot discuss and regardless …anybody can be found! It may take longer going through various proxies; however, you can be found.
That’s the myth of the internet …one cannot be located.
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@The Truth:
Like aa TAPS fan screams jealousy
“The Truth” screams thesaurus …
“like sand through an hourglass, these are the days of our lives.”
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\God Of Words\ LOL
sorry catching up…
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@MarkCale:
So you criticize my vocabulary by using big words?… You Sir; put the moron in oxymoron lol…
My points are all salient regardless of how there are expressed… without the content there is no need for a dictionary or thesaurus ( never required the consultation of either) so that argument lacks vigor much the way your posts lack interest…
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BTW I read some of the ghost divas blog page and it is nothing but bickering and unrelated banter…and while it did hand me a guilty chuckle, I feel the confrontational antagonism is all part of their shtick …
They appear to be the WWE of the paranormal community although it was a bit extreme when they ganged up on one woman and attacked different aspects of her physique that they deemed as vulnerable or that she may be sensitive about…
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I can see both sides of this. BUT, she had to know what she was doing. She prob didnt think it would get out there like it did. Now she regrets it. Toss on a medical reason that she wants it capped, and look what happens…its deleted. I love scifake.com Ron. Trust me, i do…but how can you pick and choose who’s lives to complicate? Alot of other stories on here prob cause the people they are about stress and anguish and all that good stuff….but they are still here. Is it because she more of a friend than foe? I think the story she told SHOULD BE told. She knew exactly what she was doing, but prob didnt read the fine print in her contract, and now she has to fix it.
When we start picking and choosing what is right and wrong, the integrity has been compromised. I heard audio from her interview. Great stuff. Should be a top story on here for sure. Especially what she says, kind of a home run hit for exposing paranormal people. Isnt that what you do here??? You certainly dont have to answer to me, as I am a no one.
Im not on some goofy show or anything like that.
Everyday, I get closer to realizing the whole paranormal field is just a bunch of BS that people feed into cause thats what we want to believe.
All these big groups faking evidence and incidents. Those are the guys will all the equipment. If they cant catch anything real and have to fake everything….what makes any of us think we can capture something real?
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@AudioMaster: Nevermind the errors
Im educated I do believe, I was just typing slower than my mind was going.
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@RonTebo: trust me I am not losing any sleep over the comments here or elsewhere, just find it sad that there would be any at all…I do think that the new “warnings” that surround the comment box may even deter a few
BTW I did recieve a few instant messages on my FB after I had linked one of the articles here there in full support of Donna and Scifake
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I can see both sides of this. BUT, she had to know what she was doing. She prob didnt think it would get out there like it did. Now she regrets it. Toss on a medical reason that she wants it capped, and look what happens…its deleted. I love scifake.com Ron. Trust me, i do…but how can you pick and choose who’s lives to complicate? Alot of other stories on here prob cause people stress and anguish and all that good stuff….but they are still here. Is it because Donna is more of a friend than foe? I think the story she told SHOULD BE told. She knew exactly what she was doing, but prob didnt read the fine print in her contract, and now she has to fix it.
When we start picking and choosing what is right and wrong, the integrity has been compromised. I heard audio from her interview. Great stuff. Should be a top story on here for sure. Especially what she says, kind of a home run hit for exposing paranormal people. Isnt that what you do here??? You certainly dont have to answer to me, as I am a no one.
Im not on some goofy show or anything like that.
Everyday, I get closer to realizing the whole paranormal field is just a bunch of BS that people feed into cause thats what we want to believe.
All these big groups faking evidence and incidents. Those are the guys with all the equipment. If they cant catch anything real and have to fake everything….what makes any of us think we can capture something real?
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@paraskep:
I don’t believe the so called Black eye to the Paranormal society is due to sites not respecting Donna’s wish to remove the content. Remember, just as we all have full stewardship of what we do and say, we can only account for our own actions. There is no two ways about that. Even stated on this site as well, being any threats made then will reported to law enforcement, so that statement of yours only negates again by saying, that she is not responsible for her actions.
The only Black eye, I can see in clear view is the relentless bickering over this! Let Donna and the issue fade and move on, there is enough things to deal with being Paranormal from mainstream media calling anyone a kook or insane that reports ghostly or paranormal phenomenon.
I feel the decision was fair enough to drop it, not on Donna’s behalf but to stop kicking a dead horse so to speak. This site and others should concentrate on dispelling what is fact and what is not.
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@paraskep:
Good comment, Paraskep. But I think you’re missing the point. The “backlash” directed toward Ron and SciFake should not be a personal attack (as apparently others have done), but I think some frustration might be warranted.
I’ll admit that I’m a relatively new visitor to this site (great site, by the way), but when the website’s tag-line is “exposing fakery”, you would think Donna’s interview would be right up there at the top of their list. She can’t “unsay” the things she said. It’s too late, and I would expect SciFake to realize that, and not take down the articles at the first sign of resistance.
If Donna’s health is deteriorating, perhaps she shouldn’t have done the interview in the first place – more likely, the entire request is a result of a legal issue. Regardless, we’re talking about the credibility of the paranormal field – it’s an important subject that should be discussed responsibly. Throwing out articles is not responsible journalism.
As for the “smoking gun”, I agree this is probably not that. Anyone could have said the things Donna said without proof. As a true skeptic, I know it is impossible to prove a negative. Why try?
However, the way the entire fiasco was handled, from the personal attacks to this very debate about throwing away articles seems to suggest that those in the paranormal community can’t even make up their mind, even in the face of startling new revelations.
The “black eye”, indeed, sits squarely on the faces of those that refuse to see this: FAKERY EXISTS FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING MONEY, AND THE THREAT OF LEGAL ACTION IS ENOUGH TO HIDE THE TRUTH.
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@Nate:
Exactly Nate! Therefore, I am solely against commercialization of Paranormal since it is not about helping it to become a mainstream science but only to create another Hollywood three ring reality show circus!
I got into Paranormal for the science, people affiliated with TAPS and other shows only provide a public view of faked incidents and trickery. Hence, the birth of sites such as SciFake to continue to debunk these people.
But, personal feelings seems to have played upon many in this web of deceit. My best wishes to all on here that you hopefully leave this debauchery behind and move forward. I believe the parties involved have placed their credibility to scrutiny now, and be it.
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I don’t mind the frustration and plainly the personal attacks do not faze or daze me. The people making threats or attacking are NOT lightening in a bottle. Scifake has the traffic to make an impact and the connection with the media to make waves; however, I have not reached out to my media contacts because really ..why give those desperately seeking the attention the exposure? Trust me when I tell you – people here (and elsewhere) are seeing those (remain nameless for now) who have made threats as imbeciles!
It was difficult for me to remove the articles and maybe I was to “chop-chop” about my decision! I have friends who are PROFESSIONAL reporters with NATIONAL exposure and I probably should’ve consulted with them before making my decision. BUT, what is done is done and it’s a decision I may regret; however, Donna displayed authentic concern for her health and I was trying to be the nice guy that I am! Enigma would probably slam me against the wall and knock some sense into me; however, I can’t change what is done.
Was the resolution reached prejudicial? Maybe! BUT, I will positively consult with others before a decision like this is made in the future.
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@AudioMaster:
quote Audio Master:
“All these big groups faking evidence and incidents. Those are the guys with all the equipment. If they cant catch anything real and have to fake everything….what makes any of us think we can capture something real? ”
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Some of the best photo I have seen as of late have come from a cheap camera and some of the best EVPs have come from a cell phone voice recorder …it has to do with whom is collecting the data, not the equipment used to collect it
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Didn’t this site “throw out” other articles about other paranormal TV show cast members after/due to some prior incident(s)? Perhaps legal threats were made, if not against this site then against this Donna person (sorry, I haven’t watched Ghost Hunters in years).
Who cares. The info is out there and while a paranormal show cast member “telling all” to most sensible folk who already knew that this show, like the others, is BS isn’t all that enlightening, it’s certainly juicy paranormal interenet gossip. Who doesn’t love that?
I think the GhostDivas are hilarious.
I think if people don’t want to say something on a blog or website then they pretty much ought not say it. If they want to say it but can’t due to legal issues, then that’s another ballgame.
Anyone wonder why there are so many legal contracts involved with these stupid “reality” TV shows? Is there not an article about that here someplace?
I don’t suppose it’s because ALL of these shows are complete BS and having legal gags/threats on participants is the only way to protect the moneycow.
Audiomaster stated: “Everyday, I get closer to realizing the whole paranormal field is just a bunch of BS that people feed into cause thats what we want to believe.”
Dude, welcome to the light. The real light. Not the “orb” light.
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Ron:
“Enigma would probably slam me against the wall and knock some sense into me”
Yep. I miss her and I don’t have the gas money to drive up there and ring your neck.
(This is a joke and not a threat.)
“Didn’t this site “throw out” other articles about other paranormal TV show cast members after/due to some prior incident(s)?”
Yep.
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@VictoriaHelene:
What happened to Enigma?
she was hardcore …
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TRUTH: Enigma (he or she) thought I was too soft and I was taking it up the ass with these pseudo celebs. And, Enigma thought I let him/her down by going back on my word not to allow my emotions to get involved and keep reporting what is right. Enigma felt (Chip, Jason and the rest) were only reaching out for damage control. I thought Enigma was too harsh and abrasive.
I think we can do this without being abrasive, HOWEVER, we should report the truth about the fakery regardless of the outcome and I let Enigma down.
I’m a straightforward person and if Enigma wants to return the board is ALWAYS open for Enigma because we miss his/her style in addition to speaking to Enigma almost everyday.
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@admin:
Speaking of taking it up the ass, whats the name of the article with Chip in it? lol
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I agree with Enigma, especially about Hawes using scifake for damage control. I enjoyed this site from the 1st day I found it, because it became a great place to vent, and listen to others about how corrupt Jason, Grant and their entire show has become. After your succumbing to Donna and removing a lot of great information, I am not quite sure what this site has become!!!
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@admin:
Don’t worry I wont leave even if I also think Jason is just reaching out for damage control …(I’m kidding J. don’t get all huffy)…
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@steelguy:
All of the other threads questioning TAPS
have remained in their unexpurgated form even after Jason and Brit showed up …there are mitigating factors that have influenced the decision to remove those threads and as I agree that they were interesting I understand the reasoning behind it…I have not seen any anti TAPS comments cut…even though Ron and Jason are now golf partners
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@GodOfWar:
I am the audio tech for my group. I also record and produce local bands. Lets just say im pretty good with audio.
Anything caught with a cellphone is 100% dismissable. No questions asked. Too much artificial noise, and the frequency spectrum that shitty recorders capture is horrible. Cellphone are worthless for capturing paranormal audio evidence. With all the noise, once you process it to hell, you can prob find someone singing the start spangled banner on there. I do very little processing. Mainly EQ and sometimes noise reduction to remove hiss. My audio doesnt sound like garbled shit, because I actually know how to use the software and hardware.
Anyway, my point for that is if someone brought me a cellphone and said “check out this evp”, id laugh and wouldnt even listen. Its too crippled. When you use bad capture devices , then add someone who doesnt really know audio, im sure everyone gets lots of “EVPs”.
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@AudioMaster: Star*
Man, i suck when typing fast!
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GodofWar:
Ron got that post 100% correct. He basically drove her up the wall. The latest Jason and Ron kiss and make up was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Ron:
She tried to keep you in check when you needed it. Without her you are just the balloon boy that really hid in the basket. My husband has made it 17 years without me
killing him and my male best friend has made it 7 years. I’d be in the jail within the first six months of you being around 24/7. :>0
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I’m not sure what you mean …but okay.
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@AudioMaster:
“GodOfWords” worded that poorly …
I have heard ghosts voices over my bass amp from time to time …I didn’t know that discarnate spirits gave local traffic reports!
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Let’s get this VERY straight! NO one dictates to me about the topic of story to write! NOT you and NOT Hawes. I do NOT see the need to bust balls for I like to think many of us here do NOT have the “youtube” syndrome or mentality.
If you’re envious about the people I communicate with ..hell I’ll invite you over for a nice dinner and a glass of red wine.
Sure, I could use various provocative adjectives and pronouns to describe TAPS; however, where is the name calling going to get me? The way I see it …some who hide behind the walls of anonymity are the same people who are telling me what they “think” should be said to Hawes and the rest. I have an invitation for the arm chair warriors: Use your real name, email (and phone number for verification) and give Hawes a good piece of your mind.
Stop shielding yourself from behind the veil of the internet wall and start gaining my respect by telling us who you (not just GodofWar) really are and start the mudslinging using your real name. Just as I thought …most will go back to the chair, grab the remote, bag of chips and commence the blame game and I’ll be the target. This is NOT directed at one person; however, put up or shut up! If you don’t like how I am handling this then I would suggest giving advice with your REAL name.
When I speak at least you know who I am and I am NOT afraid to put my name out there!
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I am not going to tell you that you were right or wrong in my opinion to pull the interview postings from Donna L that she did with the Ghost Divas.
I will say that if you claim to be an open, honest, non biased netzine reporting on the fakes in the paranormal field, you can’t be friends with people and pull news items because of people’s health, or because they feel bad or whatever.
You can’t have the name of SciFake and makes decisions on what to report for personal reasons.
You can make decisions on what to report based on legalities, slander, libel. I don’t believe that pulling Donna’s interview fits into any of those categories as you did not interview her and it was a second hand, confirmed story.
Otherwise SciFake will be SciFake in that biased reporting on hoaxes occur here.
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@admin:
Oh man you really took that golf partner with Jason H crack personally lol…
btw that was under the name “admin”
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@GingerSnap:
Actually that is what proves that hit points aren’t the real issue here and he did what he felt was the ‘right’ thing to to do because of her health issues …
then he went bowling with Jason and Grant
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NO! Just tired of the same comments! I did what I thought was reasonable …at the time. If you read the post you’d read I did consult with a friend who is a JOURNALIST and she agreed sometimes pulling a story is not always bad. She is a respected producer; however, the story is not about her and so I will not give her name.
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I like bowling!
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@admin:
Yeah I know but some of us are habitual smart asses and don’t have an alternative mode of expression…
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@admin:
The jail comment was because I’d kill you because you would drive me crazy.
It means that you still can’t read between the lines and explaining that type of snarkey comment defeats the purpose of saying it.
I’ll try. Pretend you are balloon boy. The balloon is this site. Enigma is on the ground holding the ropes but in reality she kept you or tried to keep you under control.
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Wow, and I thought you liked me. Oh well I can’t please everyone.
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Yikes!
I was wondering if you were yelling at me for a minute there. I know I’m a snarkey smart ass but I try not to be mean.
I hate bowling.The best part of going to a bowling alley used to be beer. The best parts of golf are beer and golf carts.
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Nope. Look I miss Enigma too …but Enigma made it clear she/he is not coming back. Sorry.
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We do like you Ron…
but we are like petulant children when there is nothing shiny to entertain us…
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I’m happy you can be entertained.
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